Daily Doodle: Not quite there yet in terms of gender neutrality, I think =\ Tips welcome? Gender neutrality is hard =| Backdated 3 hours Time: 10 mins?
This reads mostly as female to me, I think because of the "dress" and the a-line hair cut. It's difficult because even people who are androgynous tend to lean one way or the other. My best advice is to look at references of people who are closest to that line. Jenny Shimizu and Tilda Swinton come to mind, and I'm sure there are others.
OOH, OOH! Tilda Swinton I already knew and lusted after, but Jenny Shimizu is a new and awesome person to add to my personal androgyne reference pool! Sweet, thank you =D
A general outline/explanation of the kind of androgyny I'd like to go for -- if I can possibly swing it, I'd like to hit a place that reads as a-gendered, rather than a feminine man or a masculine woman. But this, I am finding, is pretty hard -- especially when the default body is inevitably read as male. I'm trying to shoot for tall, thin, and lacking gender markers (rather than, say, mixing gender markers). The other problem with androgyny is that it's also often read as young (because everyone develops a gender eventually, you see; this person has obviously just not gotten there yet!), which I don't want. Why is this difficult =|
Isn't she lovely? I don't usually find androgynous people attractive but she is my absolute exception.
See, I actually read your character as older (I think because of the hair). Some of what is adding gender, as I said, is the clothing. Maybe try the same thing in pants instead of a skirt and see which way it's skewed after that? Something else I thought of that might help you is video game character creation. I only mention it because I've been obsessively playing the Sims3 but getting "off gender" characters is relatively easy.
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A general outline/explanation of the kind of androgyny I'd like to go for -- if I can possibly swing it, I'd like to hit a place that reads as a-gendered, rather than a feminine man or a masculine woman. But this, I am finding, is pretty hard -- especially when the default body is inevitably read as male. I'm trying to shoot for tall, thin, and lacking gender markers (rather than, say, mixing gender markers). The other problem with androgyny is that it's also often read as young (because everyone develops a gender eventually, you see; this person has obviously just not gotten there yet!), which I don't want. Why is this difficult =|
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See, I actually read your character as older (I think because of the hair). Some of what is adding gender, as I said, is the clothing. Maybe try the same thing in pants instead of a skirt and see which way it's skewed after that? Something else I thought of that might help you is video game character creation. I only mention it because I've been obsessively playing the Sims3 but getting "off gender" characters is relatively easy.