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[personal profile] lassarina: the trope that irrevocably destroys a story for you (here)


So riding on the coattails of yesterday's entry, I guess my answer here is pretty obvious: probably no trope will, by itself, destroy a work for me.

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely tropes and clichés I'm predisposed against and I'll get to those in a minute, but overall I actually... tend to be more interested in a work if it has something I don't like in it but is good despite — or because of — that?

But let's back up a second. I said yesterday that I believe any idea can be done well. And I do think that's essentially true. But then for today's entry I realized that there ARE some tropes that just leave a sour taste in my mouth. I never really thought about them much before, and now that I HAVE I feel kind of... awkward? Cause it turns out that they're things like Wife Husbandry and Damsel in Distress and Magical Negro and Evil Cripple and Pet Homosexual and I kind of see a trend emerging =\

So I guess I don't like tropes that deny inherent agency or that disparage identity. And I guess that shouldn't be news to me, at this point — and in a sense it's not, because the more I've learned, the harder it's become to like things I once used to enjoy like, um, most Disney movies — but I still find myself wondering:

What IS the relationship between execution and idea?

Because some of these tropes sound less like ideas and more like executions. So I mean, a creator has an idea, something they want to express, and did they HAVE to express it by sticking a mysterious earthy black person in the story to guide the white protag along, or did they HAVE to have the person in distress be a lady or... etc. And I think I'm going to want to think/talk about this some more later, I suspect (now I am simply too TIRED), because this sounds really interesting to me, where idea ends and execution begins. LUCKILY YOU ARE ALL SPARED because ira needs some effing sleep.

INSTEAD, A CASE STUDY!

A short one >.>

So the first two Kushiel's Legacy trilogies are a study in contrasts wrt this post and the previous: I loved the first trilogy despite a lot of its content, but I just didn't like the execution of the second one even though it contained so many ideas I was predisposed to love.

YAY CASE STUDIES! )

So I guess these two questions have given me a lot to think about. Also I am apparently very contrary: no amazing idea will save you from my GRUMPYFACE OF JUDGMENT if you can't execute it properly, but if you have some things I don't like and do them really well, you are apparently my friend. Everyone may begin despairing of me immediately.
Hey it's a post from that ridiculous/amazing/this is the worst idea/this is the best idea Make-Your-Own Meme "blog every day of November" thing! Original post/list of topics. Feel free to add more! LJ | DW. If something comes up in any of these posts that you'd like to hear more about, please feel free to just make it into its own topic! HERE GOES NOTHING. YOU (SORT OF) ASKED FOR IT.


[personal profile] stealth_noodle: tropes and/or clich├ęs that you love so much you're willing to put up with aggressively mediocre works for their sake. (here)
(I promise I will do the other topic you submitted as well; I'm finding it easier to bump individual skipped topics to other days than moving the whole schedule around >.>)

OKAY SO of COURSE this is a SUPER HARD TOPIC for me! OF COURSE.

This one merited some really hard thinking. Like, you have no idea. I ALMOST WENT TO TVTROPES OVER THIS. THIS IS THE FATE YOU NEARLY CONDEMNED ME TO.

I kept agonizing: what do I love enough that I will read/watch/play/consume anything with that thing in it? And well. I think I knew the answer all along, I just didn't want to face it.

Because the answer is: NOTHING

This sounds like a cop-out and I was convinced of that at first, too. But bear with me >.>

It's not the destination but the journey that matters. SERIOUSLY. )


ACTUAL LIST OF TROPES I LIKE )

So. There you have it. Nothing excuses "meh" execution for me — in fact, mediocre executions infuriate me apparently! — but there ARE plenty of tropes I like!

Shit guys, should I make a list of the canons/fandoms I've mentioned in this entry? This feels like it needs a list. Does it need a LIST?

ETA: List has been requested!



Mentioned Works
Avatar: The Last Airbender
DCU - Batman
DCU - Green Arrow
DCU/DCAU/Smallville for Lex Luthor
Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
Dresden Files
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VIII
Fullmetal Alchemist
Gargoyles
Gentleman Bastard (The Lies of Locke Lamora, etc.)
Grosse Point Blank
Gunnerkrigg Court
Harry Potter
House, M.D.
House of Leaves
Inception
Invader ZIM
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac
Lackadaisy Cats
Léon/The Professional
Psychonauts
Marvel - Deadpool (ALSO CABLE AND DEADPOOL)
Marvel - Iron Man
Marvel - Runaways
One Piece
Pirates of the Caribbean
Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs for Hannibal Lecter
REPO! The Genetic Opera
Sam and Max
Samurai Champloo
Sherlock Holmes
Snatch
Thief
Transmetropolitan
Watchmen


Works I Wanted to Mention But Couldn't Because of Spoilers
(some spoilery works were mentioned in other contexts)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy XII
Kushiel's Legacy
Planescape: Torment
Trigun
Vorkosigan Saga
Hey it's a post from that ridiculous/amazing/this is the worst idea/this is the best idea Make-Your-Own Meme "blog every day of November" thing!

The original post explaining the project is here. Please feel free to continue adding topics/questions on the LJ or DW versions. If something comes up in any of these posts that you'd like to hear more about, please feel free to just make it into its own topic! HERE GOES NOTHING. YOU (SORT OF) ASKED FOR IT.


Once again, we interrupt your regularly scheduled topics (which I promise I will get back to I SWEAR) in favour of current events.



So there is this thing where FictionAlley is applying for a grant from the Pepsi Refresh project, which is a grant competition giving away lump pre-determined sum grants to proposals competing within monetary (but not category-based) brackets. So all the proposals asking for $25K compete with each other, across categories, but do not compete with those asking for $250K. The money is given in those determined amounts, e.g. Pepsi is not saying "we will distribute $X among Y number of proposals based on votes/need/merit/other criteria".

Here is an FA staffer's post on the subject: A Big Favor: PLEASE VOTE FOR FA, EVERY DAY, EVERY WAY. The comments there are now closed but there are some screencaps available.

Some further information is provided where [personal profile] nextian reposts (with permission) an email exchange she had with FictionAlley: so ... this happened.



So the thing is, as a member of the OTW, as someone who recently gave money to a fannish project and urged others to do so (or to give time/spread the word), this strikes pretty close to home for me, right? I support fandom as a legitimate cultural endeavour and I support the idea of fannish projects being deserving of grants and resources. But I am so sideways and so many kinds of unhappy/mixed feelings about this, and after (probably insufficient) cogitation and (also insufficient) flailing at various friends, trying to sort my thoughts and feelings out, I think all of my internal mess over this can probably be summed up like so:

1. Boy am I mad at Pepsi and the system that created it.

2. Within the above context I have no objection to FA going for the grant; arts are important and should be funded. Fandom is important. But within the below context:

3. I don't know every avenue FA has tried, but based on my perception, FA did not do enough to seek resources within its own community before applying outside of it, and still handled it in a way that, from here, seems illogical, insensitive, inefficient, and just... not good. Which is a failure of either process or communication.


That's the short version. Let's have the long one.


1. I am SO MAD at Pepsi. )


2. Go ahead and apply for grants! It is okay for fandom projects to apply for grants! Fandom rocks! )


3. There were other and probably better ways to do this, wow. )


Guys, what happened?


ETA: Answer: This happened! FA has asked to be removed from the challenge. It sounds like their financial situation has improved but could still use continued support; I hope they get the funds/support they need.

ETA 2: [personal profile] seperis has collected more links on this subject, which cover a lot of angles (including the Pepsi angle and the fandom funding angle and the OMG SPREADSHEETS angle) and basically this is a good place to go for more thinkings on the matters and click links within links. (disclaimer: I am linked in there but you already read me, go read other people!)
Hey it's a post from that ridiculous/amazing/this is the worst idea/this is the best idea Make-Your-Own Meme "blog every day of November" thing!

The original post explaining the project is here. Please feel free to continue adding topics/questions on the LJ or DW versions. If something comes up in any of these posts that you'd like to hear more about, please feel free to just make it into its own topic! HERE GOES NOTHING. YOU (SORT OF) ASKED FOR IT.

SO I was supposed to write about fandom today, a topic given to me by [personal profile] seventhe that I am super excited about and already know will be extremely tl;dr—

BUT THEN

Then I had kind of a shitty night and then a bleh day and I am SO tired and my computer died (YES AGAIN; it is dead AS WE SPEAK and I am on a mini generously loaned to me for this purpose) AND ALSO I have some VERY IMPORTANT INCEST TO WRITE

and also!

Also I voted!

So today you get to hear about voting:



VOOOOOTTTTTIIINNNG. Corgis support voting! )
Hey it's a post from that ridiculous/amazing/this is the worst idea/this is the best idea Make-Your-Own Meme "blog every day of November" thing!

The original post explaining the project is here. Please feel free to continue adding topics/questions on the LJ or DW versions. If something comes up in any of these posts that you'd like to hear more about, please feel free to just make it into its own topic! HERE GOES NOTHING. YOU (SORT OF) ASKED FOR IT.


[personal profile] shanaqui: I am predictable! What book/series do you think everyone should read? (For whatever definition of everyone you like: your flist, the whole world, people who say [x]...) (here)



OF COURSE THE FIRST DAY HAS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PROMPTS.

Guys! Disclaimer! I am REALLY TERRIBLE at favourites! Like, I so am. I tend to enjoy things on like — different dimensions! different reasons! I CAN'T PICK ONE THING EVER. Seriously [personal profile] shanaqui YOU HAVE DEFEATED ME. Game over.


... but I will try.

I SUCK AT FAVOURITES )


Everyone who... has an interest in history, journalism, Russia, or where I come from personally should read: )

Everyone who... wants to discuss pivotal cultural myths with me (or just likes Arthurian mythology and a spankin' good read) should read: )

Everyone who... loves a good fairytale retelling should read, compare, contrast, and tell me about: )

Everyone who... wants to stick it to assholes who think childrens' books and/or fantasy can't be  )

Everyone who... wants something heartbreaking and hilarious and not all about white people and also bonus cartoons should read: )

Everyone who... says they don't like/can't get into scifi (or just wants to get their feet wet) OR loves a fun mystery OR WANTS TO BE MY FRIEND should read: )

Everyone who... wants to discuss religion in fantasy worldbuilding OR wants to read about older protagonists: )

Everyone who... has never really tried manga but is kind of curious OR likes some good non-Victorian-based steampunk OR wants a variety of strong female characters should read )

Everyone who... wonders why I think I am a terribly selfish person should read: )

So that is that. I have lots and lots of other books I would love to share, some I've loved more than the ones listed here, some less. But this is probably enough to be going on with =)


(And didn't I tell you? Everything is about me. I am the alpha and omega of this post. Oh yes.)

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